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Hey guys, I have recently started playing battlefield again as you may know and i have spent some time on the [TdS] server (I'm rank 2 atm) and i think some change is in order for the server to go forward, which is what we want!

first of all some of the game modes in the rotation are a bit, well, silly. such as carrier assault. I personally think that it is a silly game mode and conquest should be used instead. i know some will agree with me, but some won't, just my opinion.

I also think that all Obliteration maps that we have going, should be converted into squad obliteration. as that game mode is more balanced and is a for when the server is full.

now when the server is full, some game modes are terrible to play as they don't have enough tickets. TDM is the worst as it only has 100 tickets, which makes it a very quick game, and for someone like me who hasn't got bf4 on their ssd, it is over by the time i get in. to fix this, domination would be a good idea on the maps that have TDM, as domination will run for a longer time.

Rush hasn't got enough tickets as well when the server is full, but i know it is hard to fix with multiple game modes running.

I think we need to look at changing out some maps, as they are just not very good, to do this we just need to identify which maps some people don't like, and do a poll to keep it or not, as some of these maps with these game modes are screwing up the server.

Now what I think is a good idea is changing the server all together to a 23/7 conquest maps or exclude some game modes, but that is not up to me to decide, but i do think changes to our mix mode server, it is for the best!

now this is just my opinion so let me know what you guys think!

also can  someone direct me to where i can see what maps/game modes are running atm

-THE_CHiEF02


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Any input is welcome Chief.

I agree that carrier assault is a love/hate but I enjoy it, what does everyone else think?

Unfortunately squad obliteration is only available on Zavod, Golmud, Paracel, Hainan, Shanghai,and Dawnbreaker so we would have to pick from them.

We did try more tickets on TDM but it applies across the board with other modes which made CQ way too long so maybe a small increase would be possible, and the server is going back to 32 slot anyway, as for load times I think it's time to join the SSD masterrace ;D.

Let us know which maps you think are server killers and we can all discuss it.

Here is the list

List #1

Gun master -          Golmud railway 

Conquest -            Operation mortar

Domination -          Hangar 21

Conquest  -          Flood zone

Gunmaster -            Zavod

Domination -          Lancang Dam

Rush -                Propaganda

Squad Obliteration -  Operation locker

Conquest -            Silk Road 

Chain link -          Pearl market

conquest-              hammerhead 

Carrier assault -      Lost islands

conquest-              golmud railway 

rush-                  zavod (graveyard shift)

TDM -                  Rogue ransmission

Rush -                Hainan Resort

Conquest -            Siege of shanghai

Domination -          Giants of Karelia

Conquest -            Rogue Transmission

Obliteration -        Metro

conquest-              wave breaker

Rush      -            siege of shanghai

list #2

conquest-              operation locker

Gunmaster -            Dawnbreaker

TDM -                  Hainan resort

Conquest -            Propaganda

Rush -                Rogue Transmission 

Chain Link -          Lumpini Garden 

Conquest  -            Pearl market

Domination -          Zavod 311 graveyard shift 

Gun master -          Siege of shanghai

conquest-              hainan resort

Obliteration -        Flood zone 

conquest-              operation mortar

Rush -                Metro

Carrier Assault -      Wave Breaker

Conquest -            Operation Whiteout

Rush -                Flood Zone

conquest-              dawnbreaker

Domination -          Hammerhead

TDM -                  Altai Range

Domination -          Nansha Strike

Obliteration -        Guilin peaks

conquest-              zavod 311 graveyard shift

+each list has the new map operation outbreak on obliteration,rush,domination and conquest while everyone want to play it.

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Totally agree with converting Obliteration to squad oblit as much as we could.

As for carrier assault I with Sip on this one.

Maybe we combine this 2 lists into one big that will be easier to manage?

I like the variety, this is distinct TDS server thing.

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Id like to suggest a new server rotation that focuses only on smaller map/modes. We seam to lose players once servers jump to larger maps/modes.

Dawnbreaker - Dom/Rush

Golmud - Dom/TDM

Op Locker - Dom/Rush/TDM

Op Outbreak - Dom/Oblit

Paracel - Dom

Rouge Transmision - Dom

Zavod Dom/TDM/Rush

Pearl Market - Chain/TDM

Propaganda - Dom/TDM

Oman - Dom

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here is the old list before provider change

List #1

Gun master -          Golmud railway 

Conquest -            Operation mortar

Domination -          Hangar 21

Conquest  -          Flood zone

Gunmaster -            Zavod

Domination -          Lancang Dam

Rush -                Propaganda

Squad Obliteration -  Operation locker

Conquest -            Silk Road 

Chain link -          Pearl market

conquest-              hammerhead 

Carrier assault -      Lost islands

conquest-              golmud railway 

rush-                  zavod (graveyard shift)

TDM -                  Rogue ransmission

Rush -                Hainan Resort

Conquest -            Siege of shanghai

Domination -          Giants of Karelia

Conquest -            Rogue Transmission

Obliteration -        Metro

conquest-              wave breaker

Rush      -            siege of shanghai

list #2

conquest-              operation locker

Gunmaster -            Dawnbreaker

TDM -                  Hainan resort

Conquest -            Propaganda

Rush -                Rogue Transmission 

Chain Link -          Lumpini Garden 

Conquest  -            Pearl market

Domination -          Zavod 311 graveyard shift 

Gun master -          Siege of shanghai

conquest-              hainan resort

Obliteration -        Flood zone 

conquest-              operation mortar

Rush -                Metro

Carrier Assault -      Wave Breaker

Conquest -            Operation Whiteout

Rush -                Flood Zone

conquest-              dawnbreaker

Domination -          Hammerhead

TDM -                  Altai Range

Domination -          Nansha Strike

Obliteration -        Guilin peaks

conquest-              zavod 311 graveyard shift

+ the operation outbreak modes on both lists

I have attached a screen shot of current list too

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The old list had a good mix of modes to keep everyone happy, I don't want to play conquest over and over, you can do that on any old server.

Maybe we could alter some of the maps but keep the modes?

Post up a new rotation based on the old list

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oman CQ is a popular map.i reckon gun master is a server killer & as i've said many times before we need more CQ to populate the server .sure other modes are good to play but cq should be the base around which everything else is based


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I really like the old one. Hey Sip do you think its a good idea to do one big list instead of 2 lists?

And do you have control of voting? what I mean is, can you control what maps and what modes will appear for voting. If you can do it manually I can help and make a list for voting so it will be balanced. Sometimes it shows only CQ or TDM, you know what I mean.

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philf2469" post="30904" timestamp="1449734427"]

oman CQ is a popular map.i reckon gun master is a server killer & as i've said many times before we need more CQ to populate the server .sure other modes are good to play but cq should be the base around which everything else is based

You are right Phil, adding a few more CQ maps couldn't hurt and you can change the maps manually in procon to get the server going.

Compot link=topic=6470.msg30905#msg30905 date=1449735305]

I really like the old one. Hey Sip do you think its a good idea to do one big list instead of 2 lists?

And do you have control of voting? what I mean is, can you control what maps and what modes will appear for voting. If you can do it manually I can help and make a list for voting so it will be balanced. Sometimes it shows only CQ or TDM, you know what I mean.

I don't think its possible to control the vote, I may be wrong but I think it's random.

I liked the variety of having two lists but it was tedious entering in all that data into procon, are you suggesting combining the two lists into one big list or choosing one of the old lists?

Fathippy link=topic=6470.msg30899#msg30899 date=1449713294]

I would like some or all of these.

All CQ

Silk rd

Golmud

Gulf of Oman

Firestorm.

Keep some rush and Oblit maps.

I can live with out Gumaster.

Give me armor

Ta

We can add those in Hippy, I know gunmaster is a love/hate thing but Compot likes it and I enjoy it to break up the game play.

We cant have everyone's perfect list so we need to take the good with the bad and keep everyone somewhat happy!

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Sip_Fo" post="30906" timestamp="1449736579"]

You are right Phil, adding a few more CQ maps couldn't hurt and you can change the maps manually in procon to get the server going.

That, I don't to be rude but couple of times Phil was in control of procon (even though there was plenty of people for voting) and guess what modes we were playing?

Sip_Fo link=topic=6470.msg30906#msg30906 date=1449736579]

I liked the variety of having two lists but it was tedious entering in all that data into procon, are you suggesting combining the two lists into one big list or choosing one of the old lists?

Yes, make a one big list, I would like to try that.

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Maps should only be changed when there are limited people on the server, and for the purpose of populating/keeping the server alive.

Voting: We can set an option to not show the current game mode in the list for the next map vote. Not sure that we can do a lot more than that, but there maybe other voting plugins we can try.

Gunmaster, I agree its not something I enjoy playing, and I generally leave the server when thats the case, and come back after the map has completed.

I agree that there should be more CQ maps, but thats just my personal opinion.

I think it would be good for us (anyone involved in this thread) to have a chat about it in TS and then post up the results of our discussion here.


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Compot link=topic=6470.msg30907#msg30907 date=1449737276]

That, I don't to be rude but couple of times Phil was in control of procon (even though there was plenty of people for voting) and guess what modes we were playing?

just for your info compot i dont change the maps while the server is going.i only change maps to get it started & then rely on the vote.but the vote often gets up with only 1 or 2 votes


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philf2469" post="30917" timestamp="1449819754"]

Compot link=topic=6470.msg30907#msg30907 date=1449737276]

the vote often gets up with only 1 or 2 votes

Thats a good point Phil, maybe we could change the minimum vote threshold so one or two don't dictate the vote for everyone else, maybe make it 5 or more??

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Hey Neg.

Since the new map came out yesterday, can we add Conquest (small and big), TDM, Rush, CTF and GM while its new and people would be interested to play it?

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So here is the list that was before

List #1

Gun master -          Golmud railway 

Conquest -            Operation mortar

Domination -          Hangar 21

Conquest  -          Flood zone

Gunmaster -            Zavod

Domination -          Lancang Dam

Rush -                Propaganda

Squad Obliteration -  Operation locker

Conquest -            Silk Road

Chain link -          Pearl market

conquest-              hammerhead 

Carrier assault -      Lost islands

conquest-              golmud railway

rush-                  zavod (graveyard shift)

TDM -                  Rogue ransmission

Rush -                Hainan Resort

Conquest -            Siege of shanghai

Domination -          Giants of Karelia

Conquest -            Rogue Transmission

Obliteration -        Metro

conquest-              wave breaker

Rush      -            siege of shanghai

list #2

conquest-              operation locker

Gunmaster -            Dawnbreaker

TDM -                  Hainan resort

Conquest -            Propaganda

Rush -                Rogue Transmission 

Chain Link -          Lumpini Garden

Conquest  -            Pearl market

Domination -          Zavod 311 graveyard shift

Gun master -          Siege of shanghai

conquest-              hainan resort

Obliteration -        Flood zone 

conquest-              operation mortar

Rush -                Metro

Carrier Assault -      Wave Breaker

Conquest -            Operation Whiteout

Rush -                Flood Zone

conquest-              dawnbreaker

Domination -          Hammerhead

TDM -                  Altai Range

Domination -          Nansha Strike

Obliteration -        Guilin peaks

conquest-              zavod 311 graveyard shift

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I WAS GOING TO START A NEW THREAD IN REGARDS TO THE NEW MAP ROTATION THOUGH THERE SEEMS TO BE PLENTY OF IN TAKE HERE.

I MY EASY IN REGARDS TO MAP ROTATION AS LONG AS ITS AN EVEN SPREAD OF DIFFERENT MAPS SO ALL GOOD FROM ME.

I AM SURE MANY OF YOU WILL HAVE THERE OWN LISTS SO HOPEFULLY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SORT SOMETHING OUT SOON SO IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD YOUR SAY THEN HAVE IT.  THOUGH I DO FEEL WE SHOULD AT LEST HAVE SOME HARD CORE IN THERE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL BF4 PLAYERS.

CHEERS REGARDS M ;) !TdSb1!ACCA

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Would like to see the new maps on for rush - Maybe replacing Dawnbreaker / Hainan.

Also Gun Master on Noshar / Community Map is good too.

Does anyone have any thoughts on a Good CTF map?

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